I played Ziigmund at 100/200 this morning while hung over and won 23k off of him. When I play that high I sell off action so I sent an email to Kranz, Whitelime, and Dean that I was giving them each a piece. Dean hits me up on G-chat after I stack Ziigmund and I decide it would be hysterical for Dean and I to pretend I got smoked and lost 80k so that when Krantz and Whitelime woke up they’d think they lost 20k.
So I sent the following email out to the 3 of them, with doctored hand histories. It’s not easy to basically rewrite entire parts of the hand histories because you have to get all the little stuff right (like ***RIVER*** [3s 7d 8h] [7s] [Ah] and “So and so showed [xx] and won ($xx,xxx.xx) with three of a kind, Aces). Anyway, here was the email I sent (subject: well that could have went better):
” i got fucking smoked. jesus. here are some HH’s, I think I played them fine, he’d been so aggressive.
his 1st 3bet of the match, maybe 8 hands in.
FullTiltPoker Game #5826899158: Table Kraft (heads up) - $100/$200 - No Limit Hold’em - 9:53:47 ET - 2008/03/29
Seat 1: DaEvils ($20,899.50)
Seat 2: Ziigmund ($19,100)
DaEvils posts the small blind of $100
Ziigmund posts the big blind of $200
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaEvils [8c Js]
DaEvils raises to $600
Ziigmund raises to $2,300
DaEvils raises to $20,899.50, and is all in
Ziigmund has 15 seconds left to act
Ziigmund has requested TIME
Ziigmund calls $17,800
Ziigmund shows [Ad Jd]
DaEvils shows [8c Js]
***FLOP*** [8s 3h Td]
***TURN*** [8s 3h Td] [9s]
***RIVER***[8d 3h Td] [9s] [Ah]
Ziigmund shows a pair of Aces
DaEvils shows a pair of Eights
Ziigmund wins the pot (38,199.50) with a pair of Aces
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $38,199.5 | Rake $0.50
Seat 1: DaEvils (small blind) showed [8c Js]and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 2: Ziigmund (big blind) showed [Ad Jd] and won (38,199.50) with a pair of Aces
My hand looks so obviously like 1 pair I figured I have to call for game theory considerations
FullTiltPoker Game #5826924787: Table Kraft (heads up) - $100/$200 - No Limit Hold’em - 9:57:22 ET - 2008/03/29
Seat 1: DaEvils ($22,899)
Seat 2: Ziigmund ($20,299.50)
DaEvils posts the small blind of $100
Ziigmund posts the big blind of $200
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaEvils [As Ac]
DaEvils raises to $600
Ziigmund calls $400
*** FLOP *** [Jh Ks Qd]
Ziigmund checks
DaEvils checks
*** TURN *** [Jh Ks Qd] [8c]
Ziigmund checks
DaEvils bets $800
Ziigmund raises to $3,600
DaEvils has 15 seconds left to act
DaEvils calls $2,800
*** RIVER *** [Jh Ks Qd 8c] [4d]
Ziigmund has 15 seconds left to act
Ziigmund bets $16,099.50, and is all in
DaEvils has 15 seconds left to act
DaEvils has requested TIME
DaEvils calls $16,099.50
Ziigmund shows [Qs 8s]
DaEvils mucks
Ziigmund wins the pot ($40,598.50) with two pair, Queens and Eights
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8,400 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Jh Ks Qd 8c 4d]
Seat 1: DaEvils (small blind) mucked [As Ac]- a pair of Aces
Seat 2: Ziigmund (big blind) showed [Qs 8s] and won (40,598.50) with two pair, Queens and Eights
Maybe this hand was questionable. I was trying to get him off AQ or AK (figure that’s huge part of his range) and maybe mid pair. When he check/raised I figured he has a pair and I likely have 10 outs. I got owned this hand.
FullTiltPoker Game #5826952370: Table Kraft (heads up) - $100/$200 - No Limit Hold’em - 10:01:12 ET - 2008/03/29
Seat 1: DaEvils ($22,599.50)
Seat 2: Ziigmund ($21,899)
DaEvils posts the small blind of $100
Ziigmund posts the big blind of $200
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaEvils [As Tc]
DaEvils raises to $600
Ziigmund raises to $2,400
DaEvils has 15 seconds left to act
DaEvils calls $1,800
*** FLOP *** [Js 7s 4h]
Ziigmund checks
DaEvils has 15 seconds left to act
DaEvils bets $2,700
Ziigmund calls $2,700
*** TURN *** [Js 7s 4h] [8d]
Ziigmund checks
DaEvils has 15 seconds left to act
DaEvils bets $5,200
Ziigmund raises $16,799
DaEvils has requested TIME
DaEvils has 15 seconds to act
DaEvils calls $11,599
Ziigmund shows [Ad Qs]
DaEvils shows [As Tc]
***RIVER*** [Js 7s 4h] [8d] [8s]
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21,900.50 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Js 7s 4h] [8d] [8s]
Seat 1: DaEvils (small blind) showed [As Tc] and lost with Ace high, Ten kicker
Seat 2: Ziigmund (big blind) showed [Ad Qs] and won (21,900.50) with Ace high, Queen kicker
Those were the big pots. For most part I didn’t flop a single pair, got check/raised a lot, slowly bled money, and he tilt quit me. Total damage is $83,600. If you guys can’t pay me on FTP we’ll figure something out. Shouldn’t have played hungover I guess”
In the real hand histories I had AJ, not 8J and he folded, I folded the AA, and he folded in my AT hand (although I won’t divulge what I actually had).
Anyway, Dean and I then orchestrate his “response”:
Dean: hey just woke up
me: hey
i’m making a fake email
doctoring the HH’s
to make it look like i lost money
so emil and jay flip out
Dean: sweet
me: when they wake up
won 23k
Dean: I’ll make a fake reply
refusing to pa
y
me: haha
solid
me: FullTiltPoker Game #5826924787: Table Kraft (heads up) - $100/$200 - No Limit Hold’em - 9:57:22 ET - 2008/03/29
Seat 1: DaEvils ($22,899)
Seat 2: Ziigmund ($20,299.50)
DaEvils posts the small blind of $100
Ziigmund posts the big blind of $200
The button is in seat #1
* HOLE CARDS *
Dealt to DaEvils [As Ac]
DaEvils raises to $600
Ziigmund calls $400
* FLOP * [Jh Ks Qd]
Ziigmund checks
DaEvils checks
* TURN * [Jh Ks Qd] [8c]
Ziigmund checks
DaEvils bets $800
Ziigmund raises to $3,600
DaEvils has 15 seconds left to act
DaEvils calls $2,800
* RIVER * [Jh Ks Qd 8c] [4d]
Ziigmund has 15 seconds left to act
Ziigmund bets $16,099.50, and is all in
DaEvils has 15 seconds left to act
DaEvils has requested TIME
DaEvils adds $1,301
DaEvils folds
Uncalled bet of $16,099.50 returned to Ziigmund
Ziigmund mucks
Ziigmund wins the pot ($8,399.50)
gonna call and lose to 8Q
Dean: y not make a hero call with T8 and lose to J9?
me: nah, AA is more believable
Dean: ok
ean: ok can I reply now to the email
refusing to pay
or should i wait for hhs
me: just sent out the fake email
wait 5 minutes
and then reply all
like “i told emil i didn’t want 25%”
civil like “so i’ll only pay 15%”
i’ll respond like “well i wouldn’t have plaeyd if i knew i’d have 35%, that’s bullshit”
Dean: isn’t it more fun if I just say I didn’t want 25% and then flat out refuse to pay anything
me: then you respond somewhat more inflammatory like “i wouldn’t
ven take you HU against zigmund at 10/20 worth, he’s not a good spot, blah blah blah”
nah, not as credible
my line we still make it a total shit show by the time they wake up
and my final response is something like “i told you i wanted 0% you till gave me a quarter at 100-200 a few months back, i paid. stop being a bitch about this, it sucks but it’s the natur of the beast when we’re sharing action these thigns happen”
blah blah blah
Dean: oh man the final hh
is LOL
AT THIS POINT I SEND THE EMAIL TELLING HIM HE OWES ME 20K
me: reply like “i don’t think you get it, i shouldn’t have to pay anything. i’ll pay 15% because that’s what i said i would be in for maximum with Emil, but no way i’m paying 25% when i’m downswinging like crazy and explicitly said not to give me 25/50 worth vs good players AND THAT WAS EVEN WITH JAY AND EMIL PLAYING”
Dean: lol
AT THIS POINT I SEND OUT THE EMAIL SAYING “GIVE ME A GOOD REASON WHY I HAD TO PAY WHEN YOU GAVE ME ACTION” or whatever
me: so your response is “you want a good reason? how about the fact that I don’t think you’re a favorite vs zig, you should know that, and you donked off 4 stacks. if you’re playing like you did with that AT hand you’re not someone i want to buy a piece of”
Here are the emails CC’d to Krantz and Whitelime
Dean:
Dude wtf? I specifically told Emil I didn’t want 25% v Ziigmund. I
don’t even think he’s that good a spot, especially with you playing.
Me:
are you fucking serious? zig is fucking awful. emil didn’t tell me you don’t want 25%. i assume you were awake when i sent the email, you should’ve said something. anyway, i forgot to tally it up. it’s $20,900 each.
Dean:
I don’t think you get it, I shouldn’t have to pay anything. I’ll pay
5% just because I don’t want to be a dick, but no way I’m paying 25%
when I’m downswinging like crazy and explicitly said not to give me
25/50 worth vs good players AND THAT WAS EVEN WITH JAY AND EMIL
PLAYING
Me:
Is this for real? A quarter of 100/200 isn’t exactly my normal stakes Dean, and now you want me to have been unknowingly playing with a third of myself? Remember when I also EXPLICITLY told you I wanted ZERO FUCKING PERCENT of all action in that email you sent and the next day you told me you’d given me 25/50 worth of your action and I owed you money? I sucked it up and paid. It wasn’t much money, but it’s the principle: shit happens when we’re always selling action like this on the fly with no confirmation, but you’d have taken 25% of the profit so you should eat 25% of the loss. Is it really worth fucking me here for 8k?
I mean, honestly try convincing me why I should have had to pay you that $1400 but you shouldn’t have to pay me 25%. Because the numbers are bigger? That’s obviously a bullshit reason. Come up with something to convince me and we’ll figure something out, but I’m skeptical right now.
Dean:
r u serious? you want a good reason? how about the fact that I don’t
think you’re a favorite vs ziig?, you should know that, and you donked
off 4 stacks. If you’re playing like you did with that AT hand you’re
not someone i want to buy a piece of. How can you be so reckless with
other people money, is this all some kind of massive fucking joke to
you?
me:
wow. seriously dean, fuck yourself. do whatever you want , pay what you think you owe, but i’m done with this argument and i’m done iwth you.
So I think we sold the enmity really well, and I’m just imagining Krantz and Whitelime reading this whole thing, tilted about losing 21k, and now caught in the middle of a friendship-destroying dramabomb.
Whitelime hits me up on IM
Emil (11:15:09 AM): whatup
Me(11:15:46 AM): check your email
Me (11:15:52 AM): lost a ton of money, dean’s backing out of paying
Emil(11:16:05 AM): how bad?
Me (11:16:10 AM): i don’t wanna talk about it
Me (11:16:12 AM): just check your email
Me (11:17:06 AM): i’
Me (11:17:14 AM): ve got yossarian HU at 50/100 if you wanna get on the waiting list
Me (11:17:16 AM): he just sat down
Me (11:18:08 AM): i’m too fcking tilted to play him right now
Emil (11:18:53 AM): i cant
Emil (11:18:57 AM): im too tilted too
Emil (11:19:00 AM): im going back to sleep
Me (11:19:04 AM): oh
Me(11:19:09 AM): you see that though?
Me (11:19:14 AM): he cearly owes me the money right?
Emil (11:19:19 AM): i’ll talk to him when i get up
Me(11:19:22 AM): before you do anything drastic
Me (11:19:31 AM): the whole thing is a level
Me (11:19:37 AM): doctored hand histories
Me (11:19:40 AM): really took 23k off him
Emil (11:19:44 AM): HFAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH
Emil (11:19:46 AM): I LOVE YOU
Me (11:19:46 AM): and am upanother 4 at 5/100 givingyou and jay 1/
Emil (11:19:48 AM): I LOVE YOU
Me (11:19:49 AM): 3
Me (11:19:53 AM): hahaha
Me (11:19:55 AM): don’t tell jay
I told Jay over the phone and recorded the conversation: if I can figure out where the audio is and how to get it online I will do so. But basically he had just woken up, was non-responsive and obviously upset and then when I told them the truth he just kept saying “what? what? you’re crazy. that’s crazy. what?”
Maybe a bit mean to put my friends through this, but I think it was pretty hilarious imagining them reading the emails and trying to make sense of this. I know this was a bit tl;dr but I put so much time into doctoring the HH’s that I thought I’d share with you guys the fruits of my labor.